Election and Beyond
#1
Seems like a good place to dump my current thoughts on our situation and where to go from here.

Biden's winning this election, unless a miracle happens.  Not going to cry about it, need to see what's next.  I'm confident we'll retain the Senate, so we'll have some sort of control in place to not get completely fucked over.

The next year or so is going to be crucial for what this group was created for, and why I joined.  I'm not willing to sit here and pout about what could have been, but I'm fired up and ready to stand up and keep fighting this fight.  We need to make our voices heard, share our views and make sure everyone knows why we're here and what we stand for.  I'm in for that, all day.  It's gonna be a rough road, and we're going to have some challenges to fight.  But lets fucking do it.

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Brandon
#2
we will have to make lemonade, take a taste and see if it taste of shit.
you are correct, it doesn't appear the dems will make a sweep and be able to implement their full plan in the next 2 years but they will be ensuring no one is able to challenge any unconstitutional executive orders nor any "executive orders" created by alphabet leaders (think DACA) so that is unchaining all the agencies to do as they wish from taxes to guns with a packed court system ensuring a thumbs up/pass to every one of their actions.

if it winds up a sweep they will ensure they force as much through as possible before the midterm, to radically and fundamentally change America to their favor.

if we win, they will be going on the offensive and everyone will need to hide their Trump signs and walk with eyes on their 6. random shootings of cops will become norm as well as similar unprompted attacks on the "nazi tyrants" IE every easy target that looks like they might not support the pantifa/progressive/communist/socialist/anarchist STATIST's "lunatic fringe's" ;) ideals.

btw.. since when do "anarchists" run to the government for cover, defense and support?

so, we need to work on comms, we need to work on gathering on short notice, we need to work on local small gatherings and we need to train our minds, bodies and with our arms.
at best we will have delayed the "progress" they are making to destroy the nation, they will be coming for us at some point in time.
#3
Yes there will be challenges from the EO and ATF making up rules as they want perspective. We do have fights ahead, but there is breathing room for the first 2 years at least with the gridlock that will come in DC.
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#4
I've had a few days to reflect on this, as well as seeing all of the other information coming out and other things progressing. Biden hasn't won shit, and the fraud is as blatant is it possibly could be. It's time to fight all right, but for things more than just the 2A. Everything I said above in terms of what is in store for us over the coming months is right, but in a different context. Trump ain't given up, and neither should we.

I'll put this here to avoid a POOFA argument - I'm not going to start on what needs proven and what doesn't. I don't have any faith in the election. As a citizen and a voter, I'm not going to stay quiet if I feel like the integrity of our election system has been compromised. I'll leave what can be proven to the lawyers. I'm ready to show support. Hope yinz agree.

B
#5
I do not agree that this election was fraudulent in the way people are claiming. The evidence isn't there. I'm not saying there's zero fraud, but simply, there's not enough to swing the election. Most of what people are claiming to be fraud evidence isn't evidence at all. Trump knows this. He has an uphill battle, but a battle I believe he should fight. However, Trump lost on his own merits at the end of the day.

That being said, PA2A won't be involved in championing the fraud allegations as long as I remain the head, which, by the way, I'm looking for someone to take it over.

I've been privately asked to remain silent about my opinion, and I will not do that.
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#6
(11-09-2020, 05:38 PM)JustinHEMI Wrote: I do not agree that this election was fraudulent in the way people are claiming. The evidence isn't there. I'm not saying there's zero fraud, but simply, there's not enough to swing the election. Most of what people are claiming to be fraud evidence isn't evidence at all. Trump knows this. He has an uphill battle, but a battle I believe he should fight. However, Trump lost on his own merits at the end of the day.

That being said, PA2A won't be involved in championing the fraud allegations as long as I remain the head, which, by the way, I'm looking for someone to take it over.

I've been privately asked to remain silent about my opinion, and I will not do that.
Im happy that for now we are still free to express our opinions, wont be that way for much longer.
But likely we will remain on the couches bickering and arguing instead of pushing candidates and running.

No one should be telling you to remain quiet, even if many of us disagree with
You.
#7
To be clear, I was not trying to suggest PA2A be a venue for promoting Trump's election. My comments were based on all of the current events has me fired up and ready to stand up for our 2A rights, as they will surely be under attack regardless.

I totally understand and respect we have a difference of opinion on the election stuff; I'm not looking for an argument but you shouldn't be told to keep your opinion to yourself.

What's most important now is what the PA2A future is and what our plan is to fight for our 2A rights, and that should be taken to more private channels.
#8
I agree, political debates do not belong in this place, our job here to to protect the 2A no matter who's in office.

We're in for a fight no matter what. Let's stay focused on that.

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